Are there enough certifiers? | RIAI Survey


23 April 2015

At the BC(A)R stakeholder meeting on the 15th April last, on four separate occasions Minister Coffey addressed the general meeting and asked for everyone to focus on ways of reducing the cost of SI.9 on the average home owner.

One big cost issue has been the competence rather than eligibility, of certifiers. As the new roles can only be undertaken by Chartered Engineers, Registered Architects or Surveyors, many commentators consider the pool of willing and able professionals to be very limited. Architectural Technologists and practically trained Architects (without qualifications) have been excluded from the list of certifiers, restricting the eligible numbers further. Although 6,000 engineers could assume the roles, they are spread across 11 disciplines, so the prospect of a computer or bio-medical engineer assuming Design or Assigned Certifier roles is remote  (BRegs Blog believes 250 chartered surveyors are eligible currently).

The response directly to the Minister, from the RIAI in particular, was that there were enough certifiers and the list of appropriate professionals did not need to be enlarged: “we are of the opinion that with approximately 8,500 registered professionals there are more than enough potential Assigned Certifiers for the work available” (quote from RIAI steering group representative). This suggests that all 2,500 RIAI architects are prepared to assume new roles with the balance being from across all 11 engineering divisions from bio-medical to structural engineers.

The RIAI’s own internal survey of members confirmed at the Irish Building Control Institute (IBCI) conference last month by RIAI representative Paul Kelly would suggest a much lower number however. A comprehensive survey and consultation of the 550 RIAI members was undertaken last October/November. The survey confirmed the following :

  • Only 15% of principals were actively acting as certifiers and only 25% plan to.
  • 50% of those surveyed had not provided BCAR services or do not plan to.
  • Of this number only 25% of principals would consider acting as certifiers on projects where they were not already appointed as Architect on the project.
  • 85% of Architects want independent inspection of design & 75% of construction.

IBCI presentation here: IBCI Paul Kelly Architects Perspective

The survey makes for very interesting reading. Certifier appointments must be individual, not corporate, so will be restricted to senior directors and partners only signing certificates. Therefore it seems that the number of senior architects willing and available to cover the 50% of firms who aren’t could be very few indeed.

It is surprising that this information was not brought to the table in the closed discussion forum with a Minister who has set out his own position very plainly. 

The full list of IBCI papers now online including Paul Kelly’s survey results:

Other posts of interest:

RIAI Assigned Certifier Survey – Results?

Independent inspection is essential – Flawed building regulations | Irish Examiner

BC(A)R Review Meeting is “…a gathering top-heavy with vested interests.” | Irish Examiner

SI.9 Review wish-list by an Architectural Technologist

One year on: Reflections on the Building Control Amendment Regulations (SI.9 of 2014) | Michael Collins FRIAI

ALERT: Ministers Kelly & Coffey Commence Review of Building Control Regulations

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One year of SI.9 and where is Architectural Technology in Ireland? | John O’Sullivan MCIAT MIPWEA

BC(A)R SI.9: “ hanging children for stealing sheep” 3 years on | Eoin O’Cofaigh FRIAI

Minister signals changes with Certifier fees of €3,500 | BC(A)R SI.9

A Margin of Error| Mícheál de Siún MRIAI

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